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  What does God really require from us?

  by MinisterAmos in

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  what is required from us?

  the two most important things are to love god and to love your neighbor, following jesus' example.. since we already know that all god requires from us is love (and the respect that accompanies it of course) why do jws feel they are "chosen" when they espouse hate?.

  interesting that i have been asked to "push" the love part in field service, and told that the rest is "too much for them to understand at first.

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  Maybe because Jesus said so?

  Where are "God's requirements from us" written ?
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  It's official ! jw's don't SHUN

  by KAYTEE in

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  i have just seen the video with the jw spiritual leader giving evidence in a court case.

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2o4lbgx81u there he says,.

  "we dont use the word, shunning".

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  "loving lesson"

  lol
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  Is there any Hope?

  by Agnostic Front in

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  hi guys, i'm hoping that you may be able to answer a question for me as you seem to have a pretty broad range of experience with the jws, about a year ago i met the most fantastic woman i've ever met, we 'clicked' straight away went on a few dates, held hands, cuddled in country pubs but i never got more than a peck on the lips when we said goodbye.

  she soon informed me that she was a jw, i didn't really know anything about them except for when they knock on my door on a saturday, so i said ok, we'll deal with it.

  she's adamant that we can't be together unless i'm a jw too, i know that this doesn't have to be the case but it's her decision.

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  about a year ago i met the most fantastic woman i've ever met

  She's adamant that we can't be together unless i'm a JW too

  maybe you need to get out more - with other people that is
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  Out of Mythic into Rational consciousness, the EX-JW Journey

  by jst2laws in

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  i have been absent much for almost a year, reading, learning and breaking out of boxes, figuratively.

  i'm hoping that sharing some thoughts and asking some questions might be fun, and maybe helpful for a few.

  have you wondered how two people can look at the same information, go through the same experience as you, perhaps even be party to the same conversation yet come away with an entirely different perception?

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  I don't "get it" about jwism being mythic, as my concept of myth is something that may, or may not, have a determinable basis in fact - yet remains a story about how people are, in a way a trueness regardless of origin - as has been pointed out, atomic structure is also mythic.

  Jwism isn't a rational description of that which is unknown - it is a lie in the sense that it refuses and rejects the known truths - it isn't like an "alternative reality" description, because it is within itself contradictory and requires cognitive dissonance on the part of those who "get it"

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  the journey continues
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  reasoning with a JW on myspace

  by Sam87 in

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  ok so im still talking to this jw over myspace, and i seem to have hit a stump.

  hello again, just thought id message you to see if you got my last message about this quote, as ive been having problems with myspace at the moment, my apoligies if you have already recieved it.

  " the time is at hand, page 101 (1908 edition).

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  Hit em with all the other false prophecies

  especially the consistent year in year out "this generation" one that fizzed like the rest of them
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  I would like to know

  by Annie Over in

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  why the bible isn't in chronilogical order?

  did they just throw it together or what?

  and...... why doesn't it just say what it means so that everyone can read it and decide what they believe.

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  why doesn't it just say what it means so that everyone can read it and decide what they believe. Why all the mysteries..

  so you can decide what you believe

  would you like it prescribed ?
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  New light is in the sand - simply stick your head in to see

  by A Paduan in

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  is "new light" the ultimate method to marginalise discussion of the religion ?

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  a major defense stategy against thinking.

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  Is "new light" the ultimate method to marginalise discussion of the religion ?

  - the sanctioned excuse for sticking your fingers in your ears and going, 'la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la......" ?

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  a major defense stategy against thinking
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  Governing Body

  by concerned elder in

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  for those who may be interested in a detailed discussion of the gb please go to posts under watchtower society / bible research and study articles / p287 topic jw's and eccisastical authority

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  A serious subject for research in psychology could be "'why people would consider the need to investigate whether or not the gb have a divine authority"
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  wha about others beliefs?

  by hindweb in

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  do you guys have friends who are not of your religion?

  if that person is a good human being but from a different faith will you guys have a issue?

  are you guys open to new beliefs?.

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  If that person is a good human being but from a different faith will you guys have a issue?

  It's unusual to consider that jws or 'different faith' folk are considered in such a context of 'good human beings'.

  Certain moral behaviour is inherrant to mankind in general, historically and culturally - and in a secular and 'atheist' context.

  It is my experience that it is jws and 'different faith' folk that manage to transgress even the basic and fundamental issues of moral culture.

  Just something I thought about today while listening to a program on the history of moral behaviour - that most of mankind already have a natural moral code - which can then be dispensed with after joining a fundamentalist cult.
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  Gods Name

  by lfcviking in

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  i've often wondered about god's name 'jehovah' or 'yahweh', why is it that these are the only two acceptable translations of the tetragrammaton "yhwh" translated from the four hebrew consonants?

  why is it that the society only implants the vowels that make the words 'jehovah' i.e(e,o and a) or 'yahweh' (a and e)?

  surely the tetragrammaton can be pronounced several different ways with a mixture of different vowels.

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  hovah in Hebrew refers to mischief

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  Witnesses of the mischief